That Solo Life: The Solo PR Pro Podcast
 

That Solo Life: The Solo PR Pro Podcast

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That Solo Life: Co-hosted by Karen Swim, founder of Words for Hire, LLC and owner of Solo PR Pro and Michelle Kane, founder of VoiceMatters, LLC, we keep it real and talk about the topics that affect solo business owners in PR and Marketing and beyond. Learn more about Solo PR Pro: www.SoloPRPro.com

Episodes

The Solo Perspective: Appreciating The Challenges Of Corporate Life

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Episode Summary:
What’s it really like to hop the fence between corporate life and solo entrepreneurship? Join co-hosts Michelle Kane of Voice Matters and Karen Swim of Solo PR Pro in this lively discussion about the contrasts between these two worlds. From navigating corporate protocols to enjoying the streamlined, impactful decision-making as a solo pro, they explore the lessons learned, the unique challenges, and the joys of creating your own career path. Whether you’re considering becoming your own boss or just want to appreciate your current work environment, this episode offers valuable insights and some laughs along the way.

Key Highlights:

  • How experiences in solo and corporate careers shape your perspective.
  • The beauty of streamlined decision-making as a solo professional.
  • Challenges like “buzzword overload” and imposter syndrome in corporate spaces.
  • Why being a solo doesn’t mean you lack the sophisticated processes of corporate life.
  • Tips for appreciating both sides and finding fulfillment in your career choice.
  • Thoughts on evolving professionally and taking control of your career in a modern work landscape.

Timestamps:

  • 00:12 – Introduction and banter about the weather.
  • 01:08 – Kicking off the topic: life as a solo vs. corporate life.
  • 03:38 – Karen reflects on government and corporate inefficiencies.
  • 04:10 – The benefits of streamlined workflows as a solo.
  • 06:28 – Why protocols exist and how they affect workplaces.
  • 07:57 – The challenges of self-perception as a solo.
  • 09:20 – Controlling your career path and the rewards of solo life.
  • 10:48 – How the modern work environment enables pivoting and flexibility.
  • 11:44 – Closing thoughts and encouragement for listeners.

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The Need for Thoughtful Engagement in an Age of Clickbait

Monday May 26, 2025

Monday May 26, 2025

Episode 301 - The Need for Thoughtful Engagement in an Age of Clickbait 

Podcast Hosts: Karen Swim, APR & Michelle Kane 

Release Schedule: New episodes every Monday 

Episode Summary:

In this thought-provoking episode of That Solo Life, Karen and Michelle take a critical look at the current state of social media and the challenges of thoughtful engagement in a world dominated by clickbait culture. They discuss how the drive for visibility and engagement often leads to misinformation, manipulation, and the decline of meaningful discourse.

The hosts share their perspectives as PR professionals on the deeper responsibility of fostering ethics and trust in communication. They emphasize the importance of slowing down to verify facts, maintaining integrity, and modeling critical thinking, especially for clients navigating today’s fast-paced information landscape.

Key Takeaways:

  • The Clickbait Conundrum: Once a space for genuine connections, social media is now overwhelmingly driven by metrics and visibility at the expense of authenticity.
  • The Role of PR Pros: Public relations professionals have a responsibility to fight misinformation and help clients maintain trust through transparent communication practices.
  • Guardrails for Brands: Karen and Michelle suggest bringing back foundational tools like fact sheets, Q&A documents, and newsroom pages to ensure an official “source of truth” for your brand.
  • Critical Thinking: The hosts stress the need for slowing down, questioning narratives, and taking the time to verify information before reacting or sharing.
  • Community Still Matters: Despite the digital noise, authentic engagement and human connection remain the most impactful strategies for building trust and loyalty.

Quotes from the Episode:

  • “People are sharing, posting, and reacting so quickly that critical thinking often takes a back seat.”
  • “We need to bring back tools like fact sheets and Q&A docs to ensure the public has easy access to the truth.”
  • “Community and genuine connection will always outperform clickbait in the long run.”

Related Episodes and Additional Resources

Timestamps:

00:00:00 - Introduction to That Solo Life
00:00:18 - The Busy Season: Maycember
00:01:12 - Here We Go Again: Social Media Manipulation
00:02:11 - The Shift in Social Media Motives
00:03:23 - The Importance of Community Content
00:04:01 - The Exhaustion of Misinformation
00:05:17 - The Role of PR Professionals in Social Media
00:06:03 - Creating Fact Sheets for Transparency
00:07:15 - Protecting Clients with Social Media Policies
00:08:32 - The Importance of Controlling Your Own Narrative
00:09:20 - Providing Journalists with Clear Messaging
00:10:27 - The Need for Critical Thinking
00:11:41 - The Decline of Critical Thinking in Education
00:12:56 - Modeling Critical Thinking in PR
00:13:21 - Conclusion and Call to Action

Why You Should Listen:

If you're a PR professional, marketer, or business owner navigating the complexities of content creation and engagement on social media, this episode is for you. Karen and Michelle provide actionable advice on combating misinformation, maintaining ethics, and fostering meaningful connections in a world of constant digital noise.

About the Show:

That Solo Life is a podcast for public relations, communication and marketing professionals that work as independent and small hosted by Karen Swim, APR and Michelle Kane. Karen is the founder of Words For Hire, a PR agency that specializes in B2B, Technology and Healthcare, and the President of Solo PR, a community dedicated to independent practitioners in public relations, communications and related fields. Michelle Kane is the Principal of VoiceMatters, a  company that offers PR, Communications Consulting, Editorial and Voiceover Services.

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How To Manage Sticky Situations In PR

Monday May 19, 2025

Monday May 19, 2025

That Solo Life Podcast, Episode 300

Episode Title 

How To Manage Sticky Situations In PR

Episode Summary 

Welcome to the 300th episode of That Solo Life! 🎉 Karen Swim, APR, and Michelle Kane reflect on their podcasting milestone before tackling a topic every PR professional can relate to – dealing with "sticky situations." From unscripted comments in interviews to inappropriate client behavior at events, Karen and Michelle share experiences, insights, and strategies to prepare for and manage these challenges with professionalism. They emphasize preparation, setting clear boundaries, and protecting your own reputation as a PR practitioner while navigating these tricky waters. 

If you’ve faced a PR crisis or want to be fully equipped for when one arises, this episode is packed with relatable stories and actionable advice. 

Episode Highlights 

  • The Importance of Preparation

Why media training, briefing sheets, and understanding client boundaries are non-negotiable steps.

  •  Clients Behaving Badly

Memorable (and eyebrow-raising) examples of client mishaps during events or interviews, and lessons learned. 

  • When Damaging Information Emerges

What to do when unexpected or concerning information about your client surfaces. 

  • Protecting Yourself and Your Reputation

Tips on maintaining contracts, financial safeguards, and crisis plans for PR pros themselves. 

  • The Role of Ethical Responsibility

Navigating PR crises while adhering to ethical practices and maintaining professionalism. 

Related Episodes and Additional Resources 

Timestamps 

  • 00:18 - Celebrating 300 episodes
  • 02:21 - Sticky situations with clients and what defines them
  • 05:00 - Events gone wrong and handling inappropriate client behavior
  • 08:42 - Unscripted comments during interviews and the importance of being present during media interactions
  • 13:30 - Concerning or damaging information surfacing about a client
  • 15:31 - Crisis communication plans for PR pros and self-protection strategies

That Solo Life is a podcast for public relations, communication and marketing professionals that work as independent and small hosted by Karen Swim, APR and Michelle Kane. Karen is the founder of Words For Hire, a PR agency that specializes in B2B, Technology and Healthcare, and the President of Solo PR, a community dedicated to independent practitioners in public relations, communications and related fields. Michelle Kane is the Principal of VoiceMatters, a  company that offers PR, Communications Consulting, Editorial and Voiceover Services.

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The Can Do Spirit of PR Practitioners Crosses Generations

Monday May 12, 2025

Monday May 12, 2025

That Solo Life Episode 299

Episode Title 

The Can Do Spirit of PR Practitioners Crosses Generations

Episode Summary 

The hosts, Karen Swim, APR, of Solo PR Pro, and Michelle Kane of VoiceMatters, discuss key findings from the USC Annenberg Global Communication Report for 2025, focusing on Gen Z’s growing presence in the workforce and what that means for public relations professionals. 

Key takeaways include:

  • Flexibility prioritized over pay: Nearly half of Gen Z employees value workplace flexibility more than higher salaries, suggesting shifting work-life balance priorities. 
  • Concerns over AI's impact: A significant portion of Gen Z is worried about AI diminishing entry-level job opportunities, highlighting the need for AI skills development. 
  • Generational perceptions: A fascinating generational divide exists regarding political and social awareness, with each group believing they are the most informed. 
  • Hybrid work benefits: The hosts advocate for hybrid work not only as a productivity tool but also as a way to encourage intergenerational mentorship and develop soft skills. 
  • The PR industry’s optimistic outlook: Despite challenges like evolving technology and the hybrid landscape, 74% of PR professionals report a positive outlook for the sector. 

Karen and Michelle also explore how these findings tie back to independent professionals, emphasizing the importance of flexibility, adaptation, and mentorship in today’s workforce. 

Episode Highlights 

1. Flexibility Over Pay: 

Gen Z is reimagining priorities, highlighting the value of flexible schedules over strictly financial incentives. Karen and Michelle explore how this impacts public relations and solo professionals. 

2. The AI Factor: 

The hosts discuss Gen Z's concerns about AI in the workplace, citing the importance of staying ahead of trends, acquiring new skill sets, and leveraging AI as a tool rather than fearing it as a replacement. 

3. Hybrid Work and Mentorship: 

Hybrid work models provide opportunities for not only business productivity but also intergenerational learning. Karen and Michelle explain how being physically present for mentorship can bridge generational gaps and help develop critical soft skills. 

4. Optimism in the PR Industry: 

Despite disruptions, PR professionals maintain an optimistic outlook. The hosts celebrate this shared resilience and problem-solving spirit that defines the PR community. 

Related Episodes & Additional Resources 

  • USC Annenberg Global Communication Report 2025 
  • Solo PR Pro resources for independent professionals here. 

Timestamps 

00:00:00 - Introduction to That Solo Life Podcast
00:00:28 - The Impact of Gen Z on the Workforce
00:01:41 - Workplace Flexibility and Generational Perspectives
00:02:53 - Balancing Work and Life: A New Approach
00:04:17 - The Hybrid Workplace: Benefits and Challenges
00:06:30 - AI's Influence on Job Opportunities for Gen Z
00:07:40 - The Importance of Mentorship Across Generations
00:09:35 - Generational Differences in Knowledge and Awareness
00:11:46 - Reflections on Past Experiences and Current Realities
00:13:06 - Optimism in the PR Industry's Future
00:14:15 - Conclusion and Resources

Host & Show Info

That Solo Life is a podcast for public relations, communication and marketing professionals that work as independent and small hosted by Karen Swim, APR and Michelle Kane. Karen is the founder of Words For Hire, a PR agency that specializes in B2B, Technology and Healthcare, and the President of Solo PR, a community dedicated to independent practitioners in public relations, communications and related fields. Michelle Kane is the Principal of VoiceMatters, a  company that offers PR, Communications Consulting, Editorial and Voiceover Services.

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PR Potpourri: A Look Back at Q1 2025

Monday May 05, 2025

Monday May 05, 2025

That Solo Life, Episode 298: PR Potpourri: A Look Back at Q1 2025

This podcast episode explores the challenges that PR professionals face in the current media and communication landscape. The discussion covers several key topics:

  • The struggles with PR tools and technologies, which often fail to keep up with the rapidly changing industry. This leaves PR practitioners having to "hack together" solutions to get the job done.

  • The broader cultural issues of overwork and lack of work-life balance in the PR and communications field, which contribute to fatigue and burnout.

  • The challenges of cutting through the "sensationalism" and "brain candy" that dominates much of today's media, and finding ways to effectively share meaningful, ethical, and responsible messaging.

The hosts emphasize the importance of PR professionals upholding their integrity and values, while also adapting to connect with audiences in creative and engaging ways. Overall, the conversation highlights the unique blend of skills and resilience required to succeed as a communicator in the current environment.

Episode Summary: 

Join co-hosts Karen Swim, APR, and Michelle Kane as they take you on a lively and insightful ride through the current state of public relations, pop culture, and the challenges of living the #SoloPR life in 2025. This isn’t just one topic; it’s a mix of everything that’s shaping the PR landscape today. From the highs and woes of PR tools to the emotional (and professional) toll of our 24/7 work culture, Karen and Michelle share their honest thoughts with moments of humor, empathy, and real-world advice.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode: 

  • An honest review of today’s PR tools, touching on media monitoring, analytics, and pitching databases. 
  • How the evolving media landscape and shrinking newsrooms are forcing PR pros to become more creative in their strategies. 
  • The societal fatigue impacting professionals across industries and how it weighs on productivity and expectations. 
  • Why sensationalism and aesthetics dominate public attention and what PR pros can do to create impactful, ethical, and relatable messaging. 
  • The power of storytelling in PR, regardless of how complex or mundane the topic may seem.

Key Quotes from the Episode: 

💬 "We have to focus on messaging and packaging it in a way that breaks through to an audience that really prizes aesthetics." – Michelle Kane 

💬 "I miss the days when PR tools gave us everything we needed for one price. Now? Higher prices, less functionality." – Karen Swim 

💬 "Public relations professionals are among the best of us. We’re not just serving our clients—we’re truly serving their publics." – Karen Swim 

Resources and Links Mentioned: 

About the Hosts: 

Karen Swim, APR, is the Founder and CEO of Words For Hire, a PR Agency and the Owner of Solo PR Pro, a community and resource hub that supports PR professionals working independently. Michelle Kane is the owner of Voice Matters, a company that offers branding and marketing, integrated content strategies, and measurable public relations.

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The Big Idea with Jess Sato

Monday Apr 28, 2025

Monday Apr 28, 2025

That Solo Life - Episode 296: The Big Idea with Jess Sato

Episode Summary 

This episode of That Solo Life dives deep into the world of business growth, messaging, and creating meaningful impact. Co-hosts Karen Swim, APR of Solo PR Pro, and Michelle Kane of Voice Matters are joined by special guest Jess Sato, a business growth and visibility strategist. Jess shares powerful insights on how purpose-driven entrepreneurs and thought leaders can identify their “big idea,” use it to stand out in a crowded marketplace, and create lasting change. Whether you’re looking to refine your messaging, grow your visibility, or tackle roadblocks on your entrepreneurial path, this episode offers actionable strategies and thought-provoking advice to move the needle in your work.

Key Takeaways 

  • Defining the Big Idea: A “big idea” doesn’t have to be completely new. Instead, it’s an audacious or bold concept that challenges the status quo, demands attention, and inspires action. 
  • The Bolt Method Framework: Jess's Bolt Method helps clarify and amplify big ideas by focusing on four pillars - Bold, Original, Loud, and Tenacious. 
  • Living Your Passion: Entrepreneurs can align their personal passions with business objectives to create both purpose and profit. 
  • Overcoming Challenges: Common roadblocks like imposter syndrome, impatience, or messaging struggles can be overcome with introspection and strategy. 
  • The Power of Rebuilding: If your work no longer feels aligned, don’t be afraid to take the time to pause, reflect, and pivot to rediscover your authentic purpose.

About Jessica “Jess”  Sato

Jessica Soto is a business growth and visibility strategist who helps purpose-driven female entrepreneurs, thought leaders and change makers clarify their big ideas, amplify their message and create lasting social impact. In this podcast episode, she discusses her process for helping clients find their "big idea" - a bold, original perspective that challenges the status quo and inspires people to take action. Soto highlights common roadblocks her clients face, such as distilling complex expertise into a cohesive core message, and provides strategies for overcoming these challenges. She also advises on building a platform for thought leadership, evolving one's message over time, and the importance of authenticity and transparency with one's audience. 

 

Episode Timeline 

  • [00:00] - Introduction from co-hosts Karen Swim and Michelle Kane 
  • [00:32] - Welcoming guest Jess Sato and learning about her background in corporate strategy and leadership development 
  • [01:14] - Jess describes her transition to working with female entrepreneurs and social impact leaders 
  • [03:33] - The definition of a big idea and why it doesn’t have to be groundbreaking to be bold or impactful 
  • [05:12] - How passion, experience, and identifying audience needs converge to form a functional big idea 
  • [09:13] - Common roadblocks faced by entrepreneurs when refining and presenting their big ideas 
  • [13:03] - The Bolt Method explained and how it helps craft unique and powerful messaging 
  • [20:13] - Aligning your big idea with platforms, stages, and communication styles to amplify your message 
  • [26:02] - Evolving your message and giving yourself permission to pivot when your work no longer feels aligned 
  • [35:12] - What it means to create a lasting legacy through your work and voice 
  • [37:05] - How to connect with Jess Sato and closing thoughts from the co-hosts 

Resources & Links 

Connect with the Hosts 

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We hope you enjoy this conversation with Jess, Karen, and Michelle!

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Do They Know About Solos? Exploring Opportunities for Solo PR Pros

Monday Apr 14, 2025

Monday Apr 14, 2025

In This Episode

What exactly do Solo PR Pros do, and how do companies find and engage with them? Many businesses are on the lookout for talented professionals to help with marketing, communications, and PR, but they often don’t know where to start. This week, Karen and Michelle unpack how Solo PR Pros can make themselves more visible and connect with companies that need their services. From networking tips to leveraging LinkedIn and exploring industry forums, they discuss practical strategies to help you stand out.

Whether you’re a seasoned Solo or new to the game, this episode will inspire you to take actionable steps toward growing your business and increasing your visibility in a competitive market. Tune in and discover how to ensure that businesses not only know about solos—but understand the value you bring to the table.

Key Topics Discussed 

  • The demand for Solo PR Pros and the uncertainty many companies feel about finding and hiring them. 
  • Why some businesses are unaware of what Solo PR Pros do and how this creates opportunities for visibility. 
  • The importance of maintaining an active presence in industry forums, local chambers, and online networks like LinkedIn. 
  • Creative strategies for meaningful networking, from casual coffee chats to hosting workshops and community events. 
  • How solos can repurpose content and boost their own SEO to increase discoverability. 
  • The changing landscape of human connection and why face-to-face engagement still matters in a digital world. 

Why You Should Listen 

If you’ve been wondering how to better position yourself as a Solo PR Pro or how to find new opportunities despite economic uncertainty, this episode is packed with advice to help you put yourself out there. Karen and Michelle share personal anecdotes, practical tips, and motivational insights to empower you to take the reins and ensure companies know you exist—and understand the immense value you provide.

Resources Mentioned 

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National Days and Awareness Months and How to Manage in 2025

Monday Apr 07, 2025

Monday Apr 07, 2025

That Solo Life, Episode 294: National Days and Awareness Months and How to Manage in 2025

 

Summary:

This podcast episode discusses the abundance of "national days" and how PR professionals and marketers should approach aligning their client initiatives with these events. The key points are:

  • There is an overwhelming number of these "national days" which can become diluted and ignored by the public.

  • These days can be divided into two categories: awareness/educational campaigns vs. marketing-driven events.

  • For awareness months/days related to important causes, it can make sense to align content and messaging if it's relevant to the client's business. However, marketers should be cautious about aligning with more frivolous "national days" just for the sake of participation.

  • The most important factor is whether the client's news, announcement, or content is truly newsworthy and valuable, regardless of whether it aligns with a designated national day or month. Forcing an announcement to fit a particular calendar event is not advised.

  • PR professionals should set clear expectations with clients about which national days/months are worth aligning with versus when it may be better to simply focus on the strength of the news itself.

In This Episode

Are you overwhelmed by the never-ending list of national days, weeks, and months? From National Hot Dog Day to Domestic Violence Awareness Month, it feels like every moment in the calendar is claimed by something. But does your brand have to jump on every single one? 

In today’s episode, co-hosts Karen Swim, APR (Solo PR Pro) and Michelle Kane (Voice Matters) discuss how to strategically decide which awareness and marketing campaigns to align with (and when to pass). They share practical advice for PR pros, marketers, and business owners on how to cut through the clutter while staying authentic to your brand.

What We Discuss in This Episode:

  • The evolution of National Days and how their popularity has changed over time. 
  • The difference between awareness campaigns that educate (e.g., Autism Awareness Month) versus marketing-driven moments (e.g., National Ice Cream Day). 
  • Why staying true to your brand’s mission is key when deciding whether to participate. 
  • Evaluating client expectations and helping them decide if their campaigns align with specific days or months. 
  • How doing something outside of a marketing or awareness month can sometimes help your message stand out. 
  • Tips for advising clients on when their big news deserves attention at the right time. 

Key Takeaways:

  • Not every campaign is necessary. Assess whether a national day or awareness month is relevant and meaningful to your brand or clients before joining in. 
  • Awareness vs. gimmicks: Distinguish between educational campaigns that offer real value and marketing "fun" that may not add much. 
  • Timing is everything. Great news is great news, no matter what day you share it. Don’t feel tied to these campaigns if they don’t serve your goals. 

Listener Reminder:

We’re not throwing shade at National Donut Day (a very worthwhile occasion, honestly!), but don’t feel obligated to latch on to every trendy day in the calendar. Use these moments as tools—but only when they make sense for your brand! 

Mentioned in This Episode:

  • How to align content with National Days effectively without overwhelming your brand strategy. 
  • Examples of when leveraging awareness months like Domestic Violence Awareness Month can reinforce your brand’s values. 

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Thanks for listening to this episode of That Solo Life! Until next time! 

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Why It's Time to Advance AI Discussions in PR

Monday Mar 31, 2025

Monday Mar 31, 2025

That Solo Life, Episode 293: Why It's Time to Advance AI Discussions in PR

In This Episode 

Join Karen Swim, APR and Michelle Kane  as they discuss how PR professionals can leverage AI to enhance productivity while maintaining ethical practices. From practical applications for tasks like research and content creation to addressing AI's challenges, this episode offers valuable insights into how professionals can integrate AI tools to work more efficiently. 

What We Cover in This Episode: 

  • MuckRack's "State of AI in PR" report and key takeaways 
  • Why PR pros need to move beyond basic AI usage (like content and journalist research) 
  • Practical examples of how to use AI to save time, like creating campaign templates, summarizing research, or simplifying technical content 
  • The importance of staying ahead with AI to offer strategic counsel to clients 
  • How to address misconceptions about AI and demonstrate your own value as a professional in a tech-driven world 
  • Ethical considerations and creating responsible AI use policies 

Why You Should Listen: 

AI is here to stay, and PR professionals must not only adapt but also lead the conversation in how this technology influences communication. Whether you're already using AI in advanced ways or you're hesitant to try, this episode addresses the need to learn to integrate AI into your workflows effectively and responsibly. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • “What we’re saying is to use AI to simplify repetitive tasks and preserve your expertise for what truly matters.” 
  • “AI isn’t a vending machine. It’s not magic. It’s only as good as what you input, but it’s a powerful assistant when used well.” 
  • “Helping clients craft AI use policies not only protects them but also establishes you as a forward-thinking, trusted advisor.” 

Key Points:

In this episode, Karen and Michelle  discuss the use of AI in public relations and communication practices. The key points are:

  • The PR industry has been slow to adopt AI, focusing on limited use cases like content creation and journalist research, rather than exploring more efficient and strategic applications.

  • AI can be a valuable tool for PR professionals, helping with repetitive tasks, research analysis, content writing, and developing campaign templates - freeing up time to focus on high-value, human-centric activities.

  • There are ethical considerations around AI usage that PR professionals should be aware of and address, such as developing AI use policies and monitoring for potential misuse or negative impacts.

  • PR professionals should make an effort to understand AI capabilities and how to leverage the technology responsibly, as it is an increasingly important part of the communication landscape.

Links and Resources Mentioned: 

Connect with Us: 

  • Visit our website: Solo PR Pro 
  • Share your thoughts and feedback: info@soloprpro.com 
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Utilizing Zero Click Content for Better Engagement

Monday Mar 24, 2025

Monday Mar 24, 2025

That Solo Life, Episode 292: Utilizing Zero Click Content for Better Engagement

In This Episode

In this episode of That Solo Life, co-hosts Karen Swim, APR and Michelle Karen discuss zero click content, a concept that is gaining traction in digital marketing and public relations. 

As the hosts explore zero click content, they discuss how this approach shifts the focus from merely driving clicks to fostering genuine engagement with your audience. Traditionally, the mantra has been to lead potential clients to our websites, but zero click content allows you to present valuable information in a more digestible format—whether through short text, videos, or engaging visuals—without the need for a direct call to action like "click here."

Karen and Michelle highlight the psychological aspect of this strategy, noting that it encourages potential clients to seek out more information on their own, thereby building trust and establishing your clients as go-to resources in their respective fields. This approach also allows PR pros to be creative in their communications. By telling compelling stories and using plain language, we can captivate our audience and encourage them to engage with our content.

Throughout the episode, Michelle and Karen discuss practical ways to implement zero click content, such as utilizing social media platforms creatively and producing engaging video content that doesn't require a formal setup. They also touch on the importance of adapting to the changing landscape of search engine optimization (SEO) driven by AI, where bite-sized, meaningful responses to audience questions are becoming increasingly vital.

Listeners are encouraged to experiment with their own content creation, using tools like CapCut and Animoto to produce engaging videos and infographics. 

Have you used zero click content? We would love to hear about your experiences so that we can all learn and grow. Drop us a line at info@soloprpro.com.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00:00 - Introduction to That Solo Life Join hosts Michelle Kane and Karen Swim as they introduce the podcast and acknowledge the challenges faced by PR pros and marketers who work for themselves.

00:00:33 - Shout Out to Caregivers Acknowledge the multitasking nature of PR pros who also serve as caregivers, highlighting the chaos of balancing work and personal responsibilities.

00:00:54 - Introduction to Zero Click Content Discussion on the concept of zero click content and how it shifts the focus from driving clicks to fostering true engagement.

00:01:47 - Engagement Over Clicks Exploring the psychological aspect of zero click content and its role in building trust and establishing authority.

00:02:34 - Creativity in Content Creation How zero click content encourages creativity and storytelling, allowing for diverse formats like visuals and short videos.

00:03:45 - Adapting to Changing Search Trends The importance of adapting to changes in search algorithms and how zero click content can enhance visibility and engagement.

00:04:37 - Interactivity and Serialization Discussing the potential for interactivity in content and the benefits of serializing information to keep audiences engaged.

00:05:56 - The Importance of Bite-Sized Information Emphasizing the need for concise, meaningful responses that resonate with audiences and improve search results.

00:07:18 - Refocusing Content Priorities A reminder that shifting to zero click content is a small pivot rather than a complete overhaul, aimed at building awareness.

00:08:03 - Building New Skills Encouragement to embrace new content strategies as a way to stand out and improve communication with clients.

00:09:49 - Practical Tools for Content Creation Recommendations for tools like CapCut and Animoto to help create engaging video content and repurpose existing materials.

00:10:58 - Engaging with the Audience Invitation for listeners to share their experiences and tips on zero click content, fostering community interaction.

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